[on Phil Collins] I wouldn't say that Phil's albums progress musically in the same way that Sting's do, but what's interesting about Phil is that he writes these really good songs that only have about three chords in them. If you asked Sting to write a song with three chords, I don't know if he'd be able to do it! So that's where I think Phil's strength lies; a lot of it has to do with the simplicity of his approach, and that comes from many different facets, including the fact that he's self-taught.